Saturday, 29 November 2008

10 reasons why coalition talks are hot air

Talks of coalition governments formed between arch-enemies for the sake of ousting Stephen Harper are far fetched, and in my opinion this is an enormous load of hot air. This is why.
  1. Coalitions built on an anti-something platform are short-lived
  2. The Bloc is mercurial and the Liberals have nothing to gain in QC by pandering to the separatists.
  3. If the Cencelli handbook is anything to go by, the NDP would have to field complete newcomers in at least 1/4 of senior portfolios and just below 1/2 of junior ones. The Government would be very shaky, particularly in these times.
  4. Distributing the portfolios and patronage among the at least 5 factions in the Liberal Party will be a nightmare.
  5. When the Liberal leadership convention takes place, either leader will be faced with a government where more than 3/4 of members are hostile.
  6. When you're in government, the buck stops with you. Many senior Liberals wouldn't touch government with a bargepole - any deterioration of the economy will kill the Party.
  7. Liberal stimuli will not earn them votes. They're hemorrhaging support in manufacturing areas and forestry areas are going to all other parties. Their message is not resonating, and neither will their money.
  8. The economy is not a basket case. It's on a rocky road, and it isn't a good idea to change drivers on a rocky road while the car is moving.
  9. When the Bloc votes the coalition down for not pandering to Quebec, either government will return to the Tories, causing humiliation on the other side of the floor, or new elections will be called. Either way the Liberal party is screwed.
  10. As many have remarked, many Liberals wouldn't want a coalition with the NDP. Some in marginal seats may well cross the floor.
As much as there's backroom dealing and grandstanding, I'm sure the real leaders of the parties concerned are negotiating with the Tories to come out of this mess. My money is on an out-of-House settlement for some stimulus in exchange for a cut in the subsidy.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just another rant list from a scared Tory blogger.

Tories (and mostly Stephen Harper) have brought this on themselves.

They have governed poorly since Oct 14th.

They are about to be thrown from office.

Welcome to Parliamentary Democracy!

The moving vans will be at 24 Sussex on the 9th, tell Lauren to start packing!

Anonymous said...

10 reasons why the coalition talks are NOT hot air

1. Stephan Dion does not want to go down in history without ever becoming PM -- notice after the election he stated watch what will happen at the Budget.
2. Stephan Dion wants a legacy of the carbon tax to pass
3. The Liberal Party of Canada has been out of the public trough for 3 years now and they miss it and need to replenish their coffers courtesy of the Canadian tax payer.
4. Jack Layton lusts for power and sees it as a way of gaining legitimacy
5. It is a way of protecting their entitlements to public funding a la $1.95
6. There are many vacancies in the senate and they want to ensure liberal control of the senate for the foreseeable future.
7. The Bloc now perceive the Conservatives as the main threat in Quebec
8. The coalition all are anti-oil industry and would love to shut down the tar sands developments and had stated as much during the last election.
9. all three parties are very much pro-Kyoto and would want to enforce it despite the harm it may do to the economy of Canada
10. All 3 parties has espoused rabid hatred of PM Harper.

Gerry from Toronto

Anonymous said...

I hope you are right.

Flavel's friend said...

Luca-
You are not a scared Tory blogger.
In fact, I think you are pretty tough to be a PC in Quebec. I agree with your 10 reasons and I think you are insightful. I want you to notice that the 'Anonymous 1' and 'Gerry from Toronto' try to refute your calculated 10 reasons with a plethora of emotional arguments, fear mongering, and hearsay. They did not address any of your 'red tape' arguments.

This is what many Cdn's forgot as they observed the political fireworks yesterday ... politics is so convoluted, and coalitions are not built in two weeks; they take alot of time to work out the bugs and conflicting vested interests. Nevertheless, their threat is an effective message to PM Harper and it was very clever and shrewd. It is politics at its best and worst.
Harry Truman said: If you want a friend in Washington, buy a dog.
I think Layton and Dion need to take a trip to the pet store next week. There are no friends in Ottawa either and I think they know that ...

~BW

Luca Manfredi said...

The two coalition-forming parties do have several policies in common and would probably be glad to carry out some of the policies mentioned in the previous comments.

However, both parties aren't completely out of their minds, and realize shutting the oil sands and taxing Canadians will not resonate positively with the majority of the population. They'd make a last stand and then be wiped out, it'd be 1993 reversed.

The Tories haven't been a shining example of government, but the Libs and Dippers certainly don't look in shape to defend their government should they be voted down.

Patrick Ross said...

There is no way the Bloc could afford to be see participating in any kind of coalition government.

Their goal is to destroy the country, not govern it. To be seen participating in a coalition government would almost permanently derail their separatist credibility.

Not to mention this: Parliament passed the speech from the throne, which did not promise an immediate economic stimulus package.

Then the government speculates on cutting subsidies to political parties and now they want to defeat the government.

No matter what the Liberals and NDP say, this isn't about a stimulus package. It's about the Liberals getting their money. Nothing more.